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  Did the Watchtower leave you in a No-Man's Land?

  by JH in

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  after becoming a witness, slowly we became programmed to believe that 99% of the world was not approved by god and that they were evil, and in the darkness, and would all die at armageddon.. most of us left the watchtower, or are on the verge of doing so, so at a certain point it's normal to be in a so called no man's land, where you don't believe what the watchtower taught and at the same time you still believe that the entire world is not approved by god.

  i was just wondering how long you stead in this mode of beleiving that the watchtower teachings were wrong, but at the same time, you still remembered and believed that the world was also doomed?

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  Hi JH, well, I've been to the top of the mountain and the no-man's land led me to my 'promised land!'

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  The Drive Home Tonight,Crying.

  by Blueblades in

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  let's see,where do i start?i decided to have a quiet drive home after work.it takes about one and half hours.no cd playing,no talk radio,no news, just a quiet drive listening to my own thoughts.i'm not concentrating on any one thing,just kind of letting my mind flow wherever it wants to.. then it starts,my mind goes back to when our children were small.as i'm driving i am having this flashback,i'm going to save my family from dying at armageddon,why the little ones are dependant on us for their future life happiness.. there will be no birthday parties,holiday celebrations,even though one of them was born on the 4th of july.no extra-curricular activities at school,and everyone will know that they don't salute the flag,nor sing the national anthem.and at the infirmary they know that they are not to take blood.. after school homework,the preparing for meetings,more studying comes next.no tv.

  tonight,it's a meeting night.oh goody,the weekend is here,now we can go out and play.sorry,we have to go out in field service,mommy and daddy will show you how to have so much fun in the field service on saturday and sunday.. i start to cry,literally,there is real pain in my chest and a lump in my throat.as i have this flashback on the drive home tonight.i think of how i robbed my children of their childhood,i'm getting very emotional and angry,a picture flashes across my mind of all those years,30 plus,that i lost for my wife and children.the opportunities that we turned down,we are going to survive armageddon!.

  i have had a talked with my family about my regrets over having put my family through this before and they don't blame me.they feel that i was doing what i thought was the best for them at the time.they forgive me,but i having yet forgiven myself.. the family says that they learned something about life,religion etc.that the experience has not made them bitter,and they have moved on.the children are happily married and doing fine.my wife and i are doing the best that we can with what time we have left.we are in our sixties,no retirement or pension fund.taking it day to day.. this is what happened on the quiet drive home tonight,it's been a year and a half of being inactive and still the flashbacks of the past 30 something years in the watchtower and all of what that has entail in raising my family still wells up inside me when i try to rest my mind and think of nothing.. i cried all the way home for one and a half hours,pain in my chest and heart,my head feeling like it would explode,angry at the society for the big chunk of life that they stole from us.. and i thought of so many others sharing the same feelings and experiences as my family,and those still stuck inside.soon as i arrived home,i collected myself together and said:"hi honey,i'm home!

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  Guest 77

  Blueblades,

  Sharing your thoughts and emotions releases some of the unnecessary hurt from an org. that preaches love and unity. It's a phase or stage your going through and you'll come out the better for it. I wish I had the right salve to ease the pain.

  I've known the org. since 1948 and I've been married 41 years. Reflecting back, I'm glad I had other interests, this interest served as a cushion when it was time for me to leave. I have repeatedly said, if I'm not wanted, I'm gone! This attitude has kept me going. Another attitude I have is, since no one puts food on my table, why should I worry and be concerned about what they think of me, why? I had a life to lead and a family to support. I have practiced what Timothy said, "Certainly, if anyone does not provide for those his own, and ESPECIALLY for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith." Now, who fits this description, YOU or the ORG? They have robbed you and many others of QUALITY time with your children and wife. Because of this robbery, there is NO true happiness within the org. Fear and emotional instabilty permeates the ranks of the witnesses and their blinded to this fact.

  They have also robbed you and many others of pensions, insurance benefits when you reach the age of retirement, how sad, unloving and thoughtless of them! What did they give to Ray Franz for all his years of service? An ENRON deal!

  I wish you the best, and yes, you still have what's most important, YOU and your LOVE for the Mrs.

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  Is it possible to stay friends?

  by Fe2O3Girl in

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  i am no longer in touch with anyone i've had a relationship with in the past.. there was one man that i stayed friends with long after i had got over the relationship.

  however, the "staying friends" stuff dragged out the process of getting over the breakup to painful lengths.

  the friendship lasted as long as he needed a mate in the area to pass an evening with when he was around here, and someone to fill out the numbers and buy a present when he got married.

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  Anything is possible with humans. Take the case of My mother-in-law and I. She wanted to control her daughter but I wouldn't let her. I became a thorn in her side. Today we are on speaking terms and everything is honky-dore. Ha ha.

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  When does it get better?

  by MonkeyPrincess in

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  when will the guilty feeling of leaving the org go away?

  i am feeling at my lowest point right now, and its terrible.

  this after visiting my parents and feeling that awkward tension building between us.

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  MP, greetings. Just keep hanging around this neighborhood and in time things will gradually fall into place. No need to rush. Enjoy the company and the suggestions given. We all have our own lives to live.

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  Believers ? I need your input ? elder called and left my mother in tears

  by acsot in

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  [quick update: almost a year ago my mother had two strokes and a heart attack.

  needless to say, we haven?t stepped foot in a kingdom hell since then.

  some of the rank and file have been kind and supportive, so i have them over to the house once in awhile (i?m also doing it for selfish reasons since it gives me a break and i can get out)]

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  This is the wife of guest 77. Just wanted to share with you that we had belonged to a congregation of many seniors aged into the 100,s while one in particular was so incapacitated physically that she could not attend meetings. No one thought any less of her. Several others no longer could attend meetings just because of the infirmities of age, another was hospitalized for a couple of years. None of these seniors were chastised for being no-shows and I know that your mom would feel the same way. Now, unfortunately, she is in their situation and she has to believe that her God will understand. After all, have we not been taught that Jah is a God of love? A parent does not beat a child for being ill. Encourage your mom's mind and heart, have her concentrate on the good of the God she serves.

  Wife of,

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  Are You Involved In Politics At All?

  by minimus in

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  since i've been raised a jw, i obviously never voted-----not even in school.

  yet, i've always been very interested in politics (more than i should've been as a witness).

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  Locally, yes. I'm known as a sh-- disturber. I'm debating whether or not I should run as a councilorperson again this summer. In my previous try, I never solicited one vote from anyone and I was surprise to learn the amount votes I received. This year, people are already asking if I would be participating, actually, I would rather be an ombudsmen. I can accomplish more plus have more free time.

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  Another newbie...

  by Rabbit in

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  i'm new too, i guess the saying, "misery loves company," is true in some ways.

  in reading some

  of the posts...i see a very sad and common theme of extreme depression and loneliness.

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  Welcome Rabbit, you have now become a real 'rabid' to your family. By the way, it's your life, isn't it?

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  US calls off search for weapons of mass destruction

  by WhyNow2000 in

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  the bush administration has quietly withdrawn a 400-member military team.

  it sent to baghdad to scour iraq for evidence of unconventional weapons.... .

  http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/front/2004/0109/901262949hm1iraq.html.

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  Freeman, that Fat Lady has been singing that same song for a long time. I think their giving her a rest.

  I'm just waiting for Saddam's turn to sing or will he? For openers he can start with, 'We're in the jailhouse now...'

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  Ozzie's Weekend Poll #79

  by ozziepost in

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  g?day all, .

  so how?s your weekend going?

  downunder it?s mid-summer and we?re enjoying hot weather when it?s good to spend time outdoors at bbqs or the beach.

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  Ozzie, what's with these different colors? I thought you ran out of black ink there for a moment!

  Why do you want to bring me down to memory lane when I want to forget?

  OK to your question; any excuse to get of the house was good for me, really! You asked, didn't you?

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  "Weak People Become Jehovah's Witnesses"

  by minimus in

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  somebody recently expressed that point of view to me.

  do you agree with that??

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  How about trusting and naive? Great religion for people who are domineering!

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